Crocs, raleigh, june 27, 1981 [sdb (1st gen) flac]

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Messagepar Vince » 07 Sep 2006, 22:00

Hi,

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=111117

et pas de mp3s hein ?
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Messagepar Xoff » 07 Sep 2006, 22:23

Merci à toi. Jolie pièce de collection…:D
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Messagepar Vince » 07 Sep 2006, 22:31

Hi,

les personnes intéressées par une COPIE SUR CDR WAVE peuvent me contacter.
Cela sera du CD-TREE, avec cover cartonnée single couleur, pochette pastique, sous enveloppe et avec timbres le tout pour environ 3 Euros en timbres...

Contactez moi sur : modelivetree@yahoo.fr

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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 07 Sep 2006, 23:34

Merci Vince de nous faire partager ce boot :fletch:
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Messagepar Vince » 07 Sep 2006, 23:39

Hi,

copie de l'info file...
On y retrouve les ébauches de recherches faites ici... en attendant plus...

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Depeche Mode, Crocs, Raleigh, June 27, 1981 [SDB (1st gen) - FLAC]

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Structure Of The Torrent :

Main folder "DM Crocs 1981"
9 tracks (FLAC level 8)

> sub sub folder "DM Crocs 1981 - Tora ! Tora ! Tora ! (original with edit)"
1 track (FLAC level 8)

> info file "DM Crocs 1981"

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Depeche Mode

Dave Gahan : vocals
Vince Clarke : keyboards, backing vocals
Martin Gore : keyboards, backing vocals
Andrew Fletcher : keyboards

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Crocs Glamour Club, Raleigh, UK, (Saturday) June 27, 1981
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Recording proposed on Ebay on August 15, 2006
by roddersteve3694 thanks to him !

Mixing desk > analog master (stereo) > analog copy > computer >
CDR > CDR > CDR > wave > normalization (no equalization) Soundforge >
DBpowerAMP > FLAC (level 8) > you

01 Television set
02 Dreaming Of Me
03 Big Muff
04 New Life
05 Boys Say Go !
06 Tora ! Tora ! Tora !
07 The Price Of Love
08 Just Can't Get Enough
09 Photographic

* complete gig (35.33)

Nota : it seemed that a short pause was done during the start
of “Tora ! Tora ! Tora !”, editing one drum beat.
I reworked it coping the next one to have a more continuous intro.
But don’t panic, the original track is also included
in a separate folder. ^_^

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A small essay
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Sorry for the never ending text…

Nota : I used various sources and personal infos to write down
the next background text.

Some datas may be incorrect, please contact me if you see any error,
or if you can complete or add any relevant information
about that venue/period/gig/set/songs.

Thanks for your comprehension and help and sorry for the average English.
That text was mainly written on September 3, 2006,
before the recent interview of Darryl that was published on the net.

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The venue
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The Crocs Glamour Club is now usually called
the “longest running alternative nightclub in UK”.

Some punk/cold/electro/gothic bands played there,
you may find sometimes its name in tour dates.
Soft Cell played there, as did Culture Club for their first gig.
The club is located near the train station, in the center of Raleigh,
less than 8 miles on the north east of Basildon.

This is a relative “small” club, with a maximum attendance of 300-400 people.

The current name of the club is now The Pink Toothbrush
(changed in the middle of the 80’s), and the music seems to be still good !

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Live gigs in the East London
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Depeche Mode played about not less than 60 gigs in 1 year,
between May 1980 and June 1981.
Not bad for a band without any album and only two singles
in February 20 and June 13
(“Dreaming Of Me” / “Ice Machine”; “New Life” / “Shout !”)
and one song on the Some Bizzare Album (“Photographic”) in January 31, 1981.

The third hit of the band, “Just Can’t Get Enough”,
will be released in September 1981,
before a short tour of the rocking places in continental Europe
and 2 dozen of dates in UK supporting the first album “Speak & Spell”.

Before that first real UK tour, most of the gigs took place
in the local area of the band, in the East of London, the famous “East End”,
in Southend and in Raleigh.
No more than 1 and an half hour trip to each venue
(Laurence Stewart usually helped the band with his van for the London gigs).
Vince Clarke was responsible for the booking of most of the gigs.

East London was known to be a poor, working and popular area.
The interview of Steve taylor for Smash Hits, July 9, 1981 is interesting :

“When Simon Bates introduces us on “Top Of The Pops”,
Depeche Mode's singer Dave Gahan is saying on the afternoon
before their television debut, "he makes a special point about us coming
from Basildon : why ?”.

“Because nothing good ever comes out of here ?”
suggests one of Gahan's three synthesiser playing colleagues, Martin Gore.
We all ponder for a minute or two,
perched up here in a tacky plastic-lined pub above the concrete shopping mall.
Silence. Next question.

Basildon deserves special mention as one of those sprawling new-ish towns
built to house London's “overspill” population in the post-war period. Like
Basingstoke, it stands in some people's eyes as a cliche for soul-less
suburban development around a boring – the word is “alienating” – centre where
the entertainment is hard to find.
The very stuff of Plays For Today. The very stuff,
you might be forgiven for thinking, of classic Urban Synthesiser Gloom.”

The first of two main clubs the band used to play in was the Bridge House,
one of the “-House” clubs in the suburbs of London
(Round House, Town House, Bridge House, Power Haus…),
each near of a local train station…

Some rock bands started here, and Iron Maiden
(another east London band, third gig ever in the Bridge House !)
had a residency in the summer of 1977… 3 years later, it will be Depeche Mode.

Terry Murphy, manager of the venue gave the band the chance to perform here,
for around the same number of gigs than in the Crocs (same capacity by the way)..

Most of the future big names of the 80’s did not play there.
We can some exceptions with The Buzzcocks, Generation X, U2, The Cure and
Iron Maiden that played in Southend, Basildon or at the Bridge House.

Depeche Mode played there 1 to 3 times during the last 4 months of 1980
and in January 1981, usually on Wednesday or Thursday nights.

Then in early 1981 the new releases (Some Bizzare Album, Dreaming Of Me)
increased the number of gigs in London famous clubs, around 2 each week in
February and April. Moonlight Club, Hope N’ Anchor, The Venue, The Lyceum,
big names usually massively played in a short period
(for example see U2, Iron Maiden, The Clash, The Cure)
to optimize the work of promotion and the paper reviews.

Depeche Mode will only return for 2 Monday gigs in February and June.
We can notice that only 3 gigs were played in March
(and only one in the last week of January, but at The Lyceum !),
the band probably worked on the recording, production, distribution
and promotion of their first single Dreaming Of Me.

The second club was the Crocs Glamour Club of Raleigh.
The band had a residency 1 to 2 gigs each month,
on the always “wanted” Saturday night, called there “The Futurist Night”.

Steve Brown of the club was a friend of Dave, and it probably helped.
They were probably opening the evening, and the setlist at least needed
to be short but effective, to keep the attention of the audience
for the rest of the night.

With the 1981 releases, the band played less and less in Raleigh,
trying to work their name in the London’ clubs,
as part of the "New Romantic" movement.
The last gig of the year at the Crocs – presented there – will be two weeks
after their first Radio 1 session for Richard Skinner, on the June 11, 1981.

The band will start the recording sessions of “Speak & Spell” on the June 14, 1981,
according to Deb Danahay (ex-girlfriend of Vince Clarke).
Depeche Mode will play a last one here on January 20, 1982,
probably as rehearsal of their first US gigs 2 days later at the Ritz in New York.

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The gig
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For ages, that show was wrongly dated as “April 11, 1981”.

The available source was from a very generated tape…
but it is from the same master without a doubt.
A closer look a few years ago made me conclude that it was or a radio broadcast,
or a soundboard.
But the hiss was so important that it was useless to work on that tape.

“Photographic” seemed to be missing on all the trading copies
(the copy I had was on the first side – 30 minutes - of a 60 minutes tape).

A few dead airs, and a backing tape problem before “Tora ! Tora ! Tora !”
were also missing, with around 20 seconds at the end of “Just Can’t Get Enough”.

The master was probably taped on a 60 minutes tape,
as the very few seconds of “Just Can’t Get Enough” are faded.

Was the gig taped for the band ? The fact that most of it was made available
in the past decades (like the Bridge House tape) in a period where the bands
did not taped themsleves a lot, and the fact that many bands used live tapes
as promotional demos for medias, friends and fans is an possible explanation.

The gig was also partly (?) videotaped by ITV
for the London Weekend Television program “20th Century Box” that was broadcasted
in July 1981. Part of the gig was included in it.

This transfer is the one made available by the seller, which was a little hissy,
but it is hardly noticeable during the songs.

Quality : 9.5 / 10

The gig is a relative short one (around 35 minutes)
if we compare the songs played with the existing tracks already rotating
on the setlists of the band.

Since May 1980, the set was 30 to 45 minutes long.
This is not known if the band played one or more sets some nights
(in August 1981 they played a few gigs with 2 shows per day, probably
for mature & young audience – with or without alcohol).

The gig in early June at the Bridge House has the same setlist,
only adding “Ice Machine” after “Big Muff”.

But if we think that Depeche Mode was starting/staring the evening
each Saturday night at the Crocs, the band probably may have decided to play
only “hits” and powerful songs (even more if a TV crew wanted to film parts of the gig).

The 9 songs may explain that choice.

The speed of some songs is different from what we will hear
during the Speak & Spell Tour, and a technical problem
(synth or amp plug, remember Joy Division in Preston !)
needed “Tora ! Tora ! Tora !” to be restarted.
Interesting keyboards then followed.
Infact many songs include improvisations and tasty drum machine sounds…

Fans will smile when they will hear the DJ before “Photographic”…
and will remember the “It’s No Good” video…

Dee Dye in “Stripped”:

“Dave used to get rattled when people pronounced the
band Day-pech-ay Mode – Essex twang a must -
and insisted it was Depeche with a silent “e”.

This is an excellent gig, and DM must be proud of it, even today.
Just compare “Photographic 1981” and “Photographic 2006”… Amazing !

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The songs played
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[All songs by Vince Clarke, unless noted]

01 Television set [Martin] :
that song was the main opener of the late 1980-1981 gigs.

02 Dreaming Of Me :
first single of the band, to date this is the best live sounding version
of that title available.

03 Big Muff [Martin Gore] :
played at the Richard Skinner session, still unreleased.

04 New Life :
second single of the band.

05 Boys Say Go ! :
played at the Richard Skinner session, still unreleased.

06 Tora ! Tora ! Tora ! [Martin Gore] (sound problem then restarted) :
played at the Richard Skinner session, still unreleased.

07 The Price Of Love [The Everly Brothers] :
A UK only release 15 x 7” Singles box set of that band was finally re-released in 1980.
A possible source of inspiration for the band ?
To date this is the best live sounding version of that title available.

08 Just Can't Get Enough :
next September single, third single of the band.

09 Photographic (encore) :
first song released officially, played at the Richard Skinner session.

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Other songs 1980- 1981
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Here are some of the other songs played between May 1980 and July 1981.
[All songs by Vince Clarke, unless noted]

Ice Machine :
played for example in London one month before the gig in Raleigh.
This is not a “dancing song” like “Photographic” for example,
it may explain that it was not played in a Saturday night evening of a local club.
B-side of “Dreaming Of Me” single.
Played the last time during the Some Great Reward Tour in 1984-1985.
As for some other Yazoo songs, “Tuesday” has some similarity with that one.

Reason Man :
played in the early days. Available on live recording.

Tomorrow’s Dance (Dance) :
played in the early days. Available on live recording.

Addiction (Ghost Of Modern Times / Closer) :
played in the early days. Available on live recording.

Moldy Old Dough [Lieutenant Pigeon] :
Appear in early setlists, no recording surfaced yet.

Secret :
Appear in early setlists, no recording surfaced yet.

Then He Kissed Me [The Crystals] :
Appear in early setlists, no recording surfaced yet.
The Beach Boys covered that song in 1965
(two years after the original release by The Crystals),
changing the name into “Then I Kissed Her”.

Virginia Plain [Roxy Music] :
Appear in early setlists, no recording surfaced yet.

Radio News :
Appear in early setlists, no recording surfaced yet.

Sunday Morning :
Appear in early setlists, no recording surfaced yet.

Mirror Is Standing :
Appear in early setlists, no recording surfaced yet

I Like It [Gerry & The Pacemakers] :
Appear in early setlists, played again during the See You Tour as extra encore.

Mama Mia [Abba] :
Appear in early setlists, no recording surfaced yet.
Lyrics of the song sung on the “Photographic” backing tape.

I Sometimes Wish I Was Dead (Sometimes I Wish I’m Dead) :
played since the end of 1980, then returned on the Speak & Spell UK tour
(and will be available on the album).
This is not known why it was not more played in the existing early 1981 live tapes.

Puppets (Operator) :
Probably demoed in July 1981, as it will be premiered in the few July gigs.

What’s Your Name ? (Pretty Boy) :
Probably demoed in July 1981, as it will be premiered in the few July gigs.

Some other songs may have been performed in the early days,
but we are lacking infos on that period.
Some may be infact working titles for ”known” songs.

It no possible (for now) to present a current timeline
of the creation/playing of each song in the first year of the band.
Studio or live demos of 1980-1981 seemed to be still unsurfaced.

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Sources & links of interest
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DM : official website
http://www.depechemode.com

DM : official live CDs
http://www.depechemodelive.com

DM : past tour dates
http://www.depechemode-live.com

DM : past setlists
http://www.playingtheangel.com

DM : tickets history
http://www.dmtickets.com/index.html

DM comprehensive Discography
http://www.depmod.com

DM & early days : biography
essential “Stripped” book by Jonathan Miller

Early days : essential articles
http://www.tuug.utu.fi/~jaakko/dm/articles1.html
http://www.tuug.utu.fi/~jaakko/dm/articles2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Romantic
http://www.fashion-era.com/new_romantics1.htm

Early days : Darryl Bamonte
http://www.myspace.com/dbamonte
http://www2.depeche-mode.com/home/article.php?article_id=96
interview in Bong 24

Early days : Robert Marlow
http://www.energy-rekords.se/marlow
“The Peter Pan Effect” CD (booklet)

Early days : songs
http://www.yazoo.org.uk

Early days : famous bands
http://www.maidenfans.com/imc....k=tours
http://www.u2tours.com
http://www.cure-concerts.de
http://homepage.mac.com/blackmarketclash

Crocs
http://www.myspace.com/pinktoothbrushclub
http://www.essexuncovered.com/thepinktoothbrush/

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Something to do
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If you liked that recording, you have the choice to SUPPORT DIME
and make a donation, but you also can buy the recent LHN gigs… ^_^

If you can try to keep that version clean WITHOUT POSTING MP3s
on rapidshare, it would be great.
This is a short gig, so you don’t need to compress it.
This is a REALLY bad pratice taken by the DM community.

Liberate the boots !

I hope that some other fans will surface uncirculated recordings...
You know who you are ! ^_^

It would be great if we finally have a good trading community,
and not only "hoarding guys" vs. "mp3's guys"...

It seemed that dozen of people tried to buy copies from the seller
after the end of the sale of the 1st gen tape.
I informed some of those people of that useless
(bad) idea of paying extra easy money. But you know the fans…

As this new surfacing will be maybe released by
unscrupulous fellows / bootleg companies,
I just hope they will choose a good artwork for it… ^_^

Thanks to DM for the last tour.

Now as DM/EMI/Mute are proposing official live audio releases
(hum we need the video too !),
it would be GREAT if we may have the permission to audio/video
tape the gigs for private use, without being tracked like foxes
(support PETA ^_^)…

The Raleigh recording is a good example that without fans,
many live tapes will NOT exist.

99% of the tapers are not recording the band for making ugly profits,
and most of them are buying LHN CDs and will continue to do so.

They are recording DM because THEY LOVE THEM. Stupid, isn’t it ?

Hope friends and foes will like it.

Hello to Fabien, Bong11, Marie-Pierre & Florian, and Isa !

See You

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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 07 Sep 2006, 23:44

Soit une demi-douzaines de pages de lecture en police 6 ;) Yeah !
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Messagepar Guilhome » 07 Sep 2006, 23:48

Fantastique, merci infiniment !!! :cheesy:
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Messagepar Dorian » 08 Sep 2006, 02:21

Un boot de qualité et des infos complètes : un grand merci Vince. :respect: : comme d'hab.



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Messagepar croustibat » 08 Sep 2006, 10:17

et moi je peux uploader le flac sur un rapidshare des cet aprem si cela interesse
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Messagepar Vince » 08 Sep 2006, 10:39

Hi,

oh cela serait parfait, car DIME est submergé par les demandes...

Brat a autorisé le lien sur le forum officiel !
:fletch: :fletch:

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Messagepar 119-1049361005 » 08 Sep 2006, 10:39

Great !!! Et boudiou.... à la vue de la list des titres interprétés à cette période, ca en fait des Titres inédits à découvrir un jour ;)
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Messagepar 119-1049361005 » 08 Sep 2006, 10:41

Vince a écrit:Brat a autorisé le lien sur le forum officiel !
:fletch: :fletch:

Alors là... si même Brat si met !
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Messagepar mcfred02 » 08 Sep 2006, 12:37

Quelle claque ce SBD!!!

je l'ai dl cette nuit et je n'arrete pas de l'ecouter en boucle...

une vraie tuerie!!!

la version de "dreaming of me" est fabuleuse... et ce son de basse et de synthé...

Vince, MERCI VERY MUCH pour ce cadeau!!! :respect: :respect:

j'ai beaucoup aimé tes differents commentaires qui remettent pas mal de gens a leur place...

PS : au risque de sembler neophyte, peux tu expliquer precisemment ce qu'est ce systeme de CD-TREE ?

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Messagepar Vince » 08 Sep 2006, 12:52

Hi,

normalement, c'est le système pyramidal d'échange :
une personne copie le concert à 5 personnes, qui envoyent à 5 personnes chacune, etc etc...

Moi c'est plus simple (pour éviter les mauvais gravages, mais aussi les délais, retards, erreurs, non respect du contrat) : je suis la seule personne qui envoie à tout le monde. Donc il suffit de m'envoyer des timbres et moi j'envoie ensuite les CDrs.

Un projet de Trees mais aussi de DMTorrents est en gestation... On verra ce que cela va donner...

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Messagepar Xoff » 08 Sep 2006, 18:08

Quel bonheur, en plus un concert le 27 juin, jour de mon anniversaire…:D
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Messagepar j'aimebienExciter » 08 Sep 2006, 19:07

Vince : MERCI !
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Messagepar nexus6 » 08 Sep 2006, 19:16

Je suis preneur d'un upload moi ausi :)
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Messagepar yann » 08 Sep 2006, 19:18

Merci à vous deux
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Messagepar nexus6 » 08 Sep 2006, 19:34

C'est dans la boite.

Merci à tous les intervenants !!!!!

Le résultat : çà déchire, le son est top !!!

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