Shoreline amphitheatre, mountain view, 21-08-1990

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Messagepar Vince » 06 Oct 2006, 13:20

Hi,

fichier torrent sur demonoid :

http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/485840/1621386/

D'autres torrents et Rapidshare de ma version vont être fait prochainement.

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Messagepar Xoff » 06 Oct 2006, 14:05

Un grand merci à toi. Je présume qu'il s'agît enfin d'un version correcte.
Que dire ? Vince restera toujours Vince…;)
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Messagepar Vince » 06 Oct 2006, 14:06

Hi,

si les gens du forum ayant déjà ma version (^_^ ) peuvent uploader le show en FLAC sur Rapidshare, ils sont les bienvenus ! :bigggrin:

Si des gens de Paris ont cette possibilité, je peux leur apporter une version 2CDR sur Paris cet après-midi / ce soir.

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Messagepar Vince » 06 Oct 2006, 14:10

Hi,

je n'ai aucune preuve qu'il n'y ai pas plusieures versions avec des bitrates mp3s différents. Néanmoins cette version (enfin la version qui a été renormalisée) semble assez commune en Europe.
C'est de cette version que 12 titres ont été ensuite remis en mp3s et postés par Guilhome.

Maintenant il existe forcément une version wave de la bande vidéo numérique originale, et il existe aussi une version wave (mais avec souffle) tirée des copies VHS. On y travaille.

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Messagepar AZKA » 06 Oct 2006, 14:19

Euh... Vince, tu parles de San Francisco 90 SB là ou je me trompe???
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Messagepar Shine » 06 Oct 2006, 14:46

AZKA a écrit:Euh... Vince, tu parles de San Francisco 90 SB là ou je me trompe???

Oui, le vrai, le seul, l'unique...!

Allez aprés le comité de soutien de Fletch, je lance le comité de soutien de @vince (humour)!

Régalez-vous les amis, cette version en contentera plus d'un....

Merci Vince!
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Messagepar Vince » 06 Oct 2006, 15:22

Hi,

effectivement c'est une erreur faite assez communément (je suis le premier d'ailleurs), mais c'est bien à Mountain View comme le prouve le site du Shoreline et les infos de l'excellent site www.cure-concerts.de :

from the website of this venue http://www.shorelineamp.com/info.asp:
Shoreline Amphitheatre
One Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043-1352

venue related links:
http://www.shorelineamp.com
http://www.amphitheatres.com/shoreline.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoreline_Amphitheatre

http://www.cure-concerts.de/concerts/1989-09-10.php

(exemple du concert de The Cure en 1989 dans cette même salle).

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Messagepar popcara » 06 Oct 2006, 16:00

Les deux villes doivent etre proche car sur de nombreux boots au cours des differentes tournées , il est precisé Moutainview ou San Francisco .
Et cette année DM a joué le 27 avril à MountainView au Shoreline Amphitheatre et Dave a dit "Good Evening San Francisco" .
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Messagepar AZKA » 06 Oct 2006, 17:07

en tout cas : MERCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Vince pour le boulot.
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Messagepar Mick62 » 06 Oct 2006, 17:24

MERCI Vince :respect:
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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 06 Oct 2006, 17:45

popcara a écrit:Et cette année DM a joué le 27 avril à MountainView au Shoreline Amphitheatre et Dave a dit "Good Evening San Francisco" .

Que vous entendrez également à la fin de World In My Eyes.
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Messagepar j'aimebienExciter » 06 Oct 2006, 18:55

VINCE :cool:
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Messagepar mcfred02 » 06 Oct 2006, 18:56

HUGE MERCI VINCE aka "french Borat" (ah! ah! ...) :respect:


c'est ENORMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.........!!??!!!


also, merci Vince pour le cd du CROC 81 + A'DAM 81 = Excellent! = :respect:


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Messagepar Personal J » 06 Oct 2006, 20:13

le concert c est le 21-07-1990

Vince dit "Maintenant il existe forcément une version wave de la bande vidéo numérique originale"
Ca ça m'etonnerait
master video analogique oui, numerique surement pas! (c'est un concert de 90 cqfd)

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Messagepar 119-1049361005 » 06 Oct 2006, 21:25

Quelqu'un pourrait il uploadé la bete sur Rapidshare ? Mycrotonik a essayé mais il a une bande passante trop faible... il lui faudrait une semaine arrrf :)
Merci d'avance pour ceux qui n'ont pas DIme :)
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Messagepar VIOLATION » 06 Oct 2006, 21:29

Merci Vince pour les liens....
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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 07 Oct 2006, 00:01

waitingforwords a écrit:Merci d'avance pour ceux qui n'ont pas DIme :)

Justement il n'est pas sur dime mais sur un site ouvert à tous ;)
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Messagepar yoann » 07 Oct 2006, 00:35

jmsmirnoffice a écrit:Justement il n'est pas sur dime mais sur un site ouvert à tous ;)

C'est un fichier torrent malgré tout.

Donc si une âme charitable pouvait mettre ça sur rapishare par exemple, ça pourrait en interesser quelques uns.
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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 07 Oct 2006, 00:49

yoann a écrit:
jmsmirnoffice a écrit:Justement il n'est pas sur dime mais sur un site ouvert à tous ;)

C'est un fichier torrent malgré tout.

Donc si une âme charitable pouvait mettre ça sur rapishare par exemple, ça pourrait en interesser quelques uns.

En effet c'est un torrent, en FLAC qui plus est.
C'est dingue ça faut toujours macher le boulot.
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Messagepar Vince » 07 Oct 2006, 03:59

Hi,

je sais les torrents ne sont pas forcément l'unique solution... COmme je l'ai dit, si des gens sur Paris on Rapidshare, je peux donner une version 2CDR à mettre... Il semble que personne encore en Europe n'ait pu le faire.

Je pense que la source est digital pour une bonne raison : sur la version audio mp3 il n'y a aucun souffle. Sur un VHS master il y en aurait. Donc la source est bien BETA ou S-VHS.

Voici l'info file j'ai oublié de la poster...

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Depeche Mode, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, (Saturday) July 21, 1990
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Recording proposed by me

Proshot (multicam taped for giant screens by the venue,
rumours also talk of an Anton Corbjin single shot video ? ) ?? ? >
Betacam or S-VHS (no hiss ) ?? ? > ?? ? > .. . >
mp3 (average bitrate) > ( .. . ) > > CDR > CDR > wave >
normalization (no equalization ) Soundforge > DBpowerAMP > FLAC (level 8 ) > you

01 Kaleid
02 World In My Eyes
03 Halo
04 Shake The Disease
05 Everything Counts
06 Master And Servant
07 Never Let Me Down Again
08 Waiting For The Night
09 Here Is The House
10 Sweetest Perfection
11 Clean
12 Stripped
13 Policy Of Truth
14 Enjoy The Silence
15 Strangelove
16 Personal Jesus
17 Black Celebration
18 A Question Of Time
19 Behind The Wheel
20 Route 66

* complete gig (106.31)

Nota : unless the original owner from that file can confirm the real lineage, I’m ONLY proposing a TENTATIVE one.
Too many rumours, too many lies, to many fake infos, and too many people having that one for years
(I know and many fans know WHO you are !) …

It seemed that all the existing audio versions are edited, missing the dead airs between encores.
To date, the audio versions seemed to be all mp3 sourced (with a bad bitrate).
It may be or may not be a volontary act of sabotage.

You can “cut” the CD1 and CD2 where you want.

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Reworking
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You can notice that there is NO HISS on the Mountain View recording.
This is why I’m a bit sure that the original source was or a betacam tape, or a S-VHS tape.
Then the original audio source of the video was transferred into wave, then mp3.

It seemed that the original video made a few problems between a few people of the hoarding community
in the past. At least one or two VHS copies (they seemed not to be DVDR or betacam / S-VHS tapes)
may have been sent to Europe. The video is STILL unsurfaced.

I normalized the sound of that “mp3 version” that was spreaded over the community since 2005.
For example the songs done by Martin were really too loud in the contrary of the rest of the gig.

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The “famous”’ 1990 soundboards
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Nota : I used various sources and personal infos to write down
the next background text.

Some datas may be incorrect, please contact me if you see any error,
or if you can complete or add any relevant information
about that venue/period/gig/set/songs.

Thanks for your comprehension and help, and sorry for the average English from your "french Borat". ^_^

Depeche Mode released no official live tracks on audio or video of the “World Violation Tour”.
Some parts of a live concert (one gig ? more ?) can be seen on the “World In My Eyes” music video
(taken from the Mountain View video ???).

The band and management said that with the release of “Depeche Mode 101”,
there was not need for another audio/video release only 2 years after the last tour.
It seemed that no gig was protaped by Mute, but that some were partly taped by TV or more fully
when giant screens were provided by the venues (the TV staff of the venue filmed the performance).

But where are the other soundboards ?

Brat did a great job finding a multicam proshot tape of the first of the two Dodger Stadium in 1990.
It was taped by the Dodger video crew, for the giant screens.
The Dodger Stadium may have a digital copy, but who knows ?

Brat provided free samples on the official website (90 sec of each song), thanks to him :
http://archives.depechemode.com/video....es.html

Here is the “questions and answers” done by Alan on his website, who is always happy to give many many infos
on his work with Depeche Mode. Thanks to him !

From: Frantisek Trenkler
E-mail: gulo@dodo.sk

Q > I would like to ask you why DM released so many live songs during the 'Devotional' tour
(live singles, 'Songs Of Faith and Devotion' live, 'Devotional' video) and yet there was nothing released during the 'World Violation' tour?
Are there at least some 1990 tour audio/video recordings in your archives so we can hope for their later release?

A > The 'World Violation' tour was too soon after the 'Music For The Masses' tour to warrant a live LP.
By the time 'Devotional' came along it was felt that enough time had passed to release another one.
I'm sure there are some recordings from 'World Violation' but I don't know if they will ever be released.

From: Farhan
E-mail: f-kazmi@uiuc.edu

Q > Did DM record all their live shows and then listen to them afterwards for improvement matters?

A > I used to get our sound engineer to record tapes (directly from the mixing board) of rehearsals
and the first few shows of a tour. These don't always give you an accurate balance but are good
for checking performance etc. Apart from that, we only recorded certain shows (using a mobile)
if we were intending a live LP or something.

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The gig
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An incomplete audience version of that gig exists, and three different complete SDB “mp3 versions” were available (mostly since 2005) :
- raw SDB “mp3 version”
- “remastered” (?) SDB “mp3 version”
- normalized and reworked SDB “mp3 version” done by me and freely sent to around 30 "important" french fans since May 2006.
I asked them not to surface it, as I was hoping to surface the “wave version”. It was a gift i made to them,
to gave a proof that if i was not surfacing anything, they will have the opportunity to do that.
Since May 2006, i worked very hard to track down a possible wave / video version. I did not find it, but had many many infos,
and i hope that it will be surfaced in the future with other rarities.


On October 4th, 2006, a french fan sended Rapidshare links with 12 tracks on mp3 (mp3 from the wave version I sended in May 2006),
taken from the normalized version I sended to friends. It seemed that someone lied to me and made copies.
Everyone played the game… only one black sheep, not bad after all ^_^

We can include samples of the SDB that surfaced in 2004 (heavy compression), and a few more samples in 2005 (same compression than the usual complete SDB “mp3 version”).

Side-line electro webzine announced in late 2003 “Violator soundboard recording pops up”.
This started some debate to know if the extract (“Enjoy The Silence”) was taken from the Moutain View SDB (presented here),
or from the Philadelphia day 2 MTV broadcast.
http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=P373_0_2_0_C

Quality : 9.5 / 10

Normalement j'attends confirmation de savoir si c'est bien un multicam ou une camera simple. Je pense que bcp de gens seront étonné de connaitre la source dans le futur, moi le premier...

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