par STUMM101 » 01 Déc 2008, 15:58
Salut,
Tout les remasters de New Order (Movement ; Power, Corruption and Lies ; Low-Life ; Brotherhood et Technique) sont retirés de la vente suite à de nombreux problèmes (Techniques :bigggrin: ).
Cela fait suite à de nombreuses plaintes et réclamations des acheteurs.
Plus de 300 erreurs ou problèmes ont été avérés.
Les remasters remasterisés (re-:bigggrin:) devraient ressortir courant 2009 (début 2009 ?).
Voici le décompte des soucis :
NEW ORDER 2008 COLLECTOR'S EDITION DOUBLE CDs "The Factory Years"
This is a log file of complaints so far, and my intention is to update it as they arrive. The list is not finished yet - keep them coming!
Number of confirmed errors: 300 and counting...
Movement (1981):
1. Dreams Never End
2. Truth
3. Senses
4. Chosen Time
5. I.C.B
6. The Him - Glitch at 5:25-5:26
7. Doubts Even Here
8. Denial
Movement - bonus disc:
1. Ceremony
2. Temptation - Version info missing from CDtext entry (click at 3:47 - unconfirmed)
3. In A Lonely Place (levels are maxed out which has caused clipping - unconfirmed)
4. Everything's Gone Green
5. Procession
6. Cries & Whispers (mislabelled as "Mesh" - unconfirmed) (glitches at 0:06, 0:07, 0:08, 0:28, 0:34, and 0:45 - unconfirmed)
7. Hurt - Glitches at 0:00, 0:37, 1:05[right channel pop], 1:07, 3:04, 3:48, 4:06, 6:19, 6:24, 7:07, 7:26, 7:59)
8. Mesh (mislabelled as "Cries & Whispers" - unconfirmed) - Evidence of scratched vinyl at 0:28, 0:30, 0:35, 0:37, 1:05, 1:07, 1:09, 1:12, 1:14, 1:19, 1:21, 1:40, 1:41, 2:08, 2:09, 2:17, 2:18, 2:19, 2:24, 2:26, 2:28, 2:33, 2:35. In addition, digital glitches at: 0:07, 0:20, 0:44, 0:58, 1:00, 1:25, 1:33, 1:37, 1:44, 1:47, 1:49, 1:56, 1:58, 2:12, 2:22, 2:37, 2:40, 2:49, 2:54, 2:56. Sudden convergence to mono at 1:35.
9. Ceremony (Alt. Version) -L/R channels swapped
10. Temptation - Version info missing from CDtext entry. Left channel crackle at 0:24
CDtext: "Artist" information is missing
CDtext: "Title" information is missing
Power, Corruption and Lies (1983):
1, Age of consent
2, We all stand
3, The village
4, 586 ("abrupt ending", "drops the last 4 bass notes" - unconfirmed)
5, Your silent face
6, Ultraviolence
7, Ecstasy
8, Leave me alone
Power, Corruption and Lies - bonus disc:
1, Blue Monday (L/R pans 0:07[sudden], and between 0:19 and 2:24. At 2:24 it pans back again. Unconfirmed whether this is on the original 12 inch)
2, The Beach
3, Confusion - Clicks at 4:04 and 6:00 (Left channel click at 8:06 - unconfirmed whether this is on the original 12 inch)
4, Thieves like us CDtext track info says "ThEIves Like Us"
5, Lonesome Tonight (clicks at 0:40 and 0:59 - unconfirmed)
6, Murder - "Clicks" at 0:35, 1:08, 1:29, 1:43, 2:03, 2:31, 2:43, 2:50, 3:00, 3:19, 3:26
7, Thieves like us (instrumental) (click at 1:03 - unconfirmed) CDtext track info says "ThEIves Like Us"
8, Confusion (instrumental)
CDtext: "Artist" information is missing
CDtext: "Title" information is missing
Low-Life (1985) Digipak spine says "1983"
1. Love Vigilantes 4:19
2. The Perfect Kiss 4:50
3. This Time of Night 4:45
4. Sunrise 6:01 - Sudden volume drop in right channel at 2:36
5. Elegia 4:55
6. Sooner Than You Think 5:11
7. Sub-culture 4:58
8. Face Up 5:06
Overall: the album tracks "sound like they've been mastered from the Centredate cd's and not the masters themselves" "this release is a massive disappointment. I even would advise anyone not to buy it" "Sleeve notes full of errors" "Did anyone proof read these?"
Low-Life – bonus disc
1. The Perfect Kiss 8:50 - Dubious sound quality, clicks, 'crackles', and pops at 0:07, 0:11, 0:16, 0:20, 0:23, 0:25, 0:30, 0:42, 0:50, 0:54, 1:08, 1:19, 1:23, 1:28, 1:32, 1:38, 1:56, 2:12, 2:32, 3:01, 3:03, 3:10, 3:11, 3:15, 3:24, 3:29, 3:40, 3:54, 3:57, 4:52, 4:59, 5:04, 5:06, 5:11, 5:13, 5:15, 5:18, 5:20, 5:27, 5:41, 6:08, 6:09, 6:37, 6:42, 6:44, 6:47, 6:51, 6:56, 7:12, 7:47, 7:49, 8:10, 8:15, 8:20, 8:36, and 8:38.
2. Subculture 7:27 - Glitches "run the whole way through it", namely at: 0:02, 0:04, 0:07, 0:08, 0:23, 0:48, 0:56, 1:24, 1:32, 1:58, 2:09, 2:47, 2:50, 3:13, 3:52, 3:55, 3:57, 3:59, 4:30, 4:35, 4:48, 4:55, 4:57, 5:04, 5:18, 5:46, 5:49, 6:38, and 6:52.
3. Shellshock - Not what it says: plays the Substance edit, not the full 12" version. Sounds "shitty, more bass but also no presence"
4. Shame Of The Nation
5. Elegia 17:30
6. Let’s Go - "Clicks" at 1:24 and 3:23(at 1:31 it sounds like the tape slowed suddenly - unconfirmed)
7. Salvation Theme 2:16
8. Dub Vulture 7:56 - Has "rumble" as if it were taken from vinyl. Clicks and pops at 0:07, 0:09, 0:14 ....
CDtext: "Artist" information is missing
CDtext: "Title" information is missing
CDtext: track titles are missing
Overall, "mastering for the bonus tracks is on the loud side" and clipping may be present. "The tracks on the bonus disc sound mostly awful". "I just can't believe this release passed the quality control of band, management and label."
Brotherhood (1986)
1, Paradise
2, weirdo
3, As it is when it was
4, Broken promise
5, Way of life
6, Bizarre love triangle
7, All day long
8, Angel dust
9, Every little counts
10, State of the nation
Brotherhood - bonus disc
1, Bizarre love triangle (shep pettibone remix) - Version info missing from CDtext entry
2, 1963 - Clicks at 0:04, 0:25, 0:28, 0:30, 0:39, 0:46, 0:55, 1:14, 1:37, 1:56, 2:03, 2:07, 2:14, 2:42, 3:07, 3:29, 3:40, 3:54, 4:25, 4:32, 4:34, 4:40, 4:55, 5:00, 5:16, and 5:25. "Stutter" at 3:36. In addition, "the track has a lot of clipping"
3, True Faith (shep pettibone remix)
4, Touched by the hand of god - Dubious sound quality, clicks, pops and digital glitches at: 0:08, 0:13, 0:15, 0:23, 0:29, 0:39, 6:53, 6:58, and 7:00.
5, Blue Monday ‘88
6, Evil dust - "sounds like it was recorded directly from vinyl", "crackles or some sort of skip at the start"
7, True Dub - Not what it says: plays a 1994 Tall Paul "eschreamer dubbier" remix
8, Beach Buggy - Not what it says: plays Blue Monday 1988 (dub version)
CDtext title information says "Disc 8 supplementary material"
Technique (1989)
1, Fine Time
2, All the way
3, love less (click at 0:04 - unconfirmed)
4, Round and round
5, Guilty partner
6, Run
7, Mr disco
8, vanishing point
9, Dream attack
"Sleeve notes full of errors" "Did anyone proof read these?"
Technique - bonus disc
1, Don’t do it - Clicks and pops at 0:08, 0:18, 0:35, 0:40, 1:00, 2:25, 2:27, 3:01, 3:05, 3:07, 3:32, 4:12, 4:17, and 4:19. ( a skip near the beginning of the track - unconfirmed)
2, Fine line - A myriad of crackles and "jumps"
3, Round and round - CDtext track info says "Round round". Dubious sound quality, clicks, pops and digital glitches. "4 pops/irregular static within the first 20 seconds". Problems at 0:05, 0:07, 0:10, 0:16, 0:28, 0:32, 0:36, 0:41, 0:48, 0:52, 0:54, 0:56, 0:59, 1:05, 1:30, 1:39, 2:28, 2:30, 2:32, 2:41, 2:43, 2:52, 3:03, 3:15, 4:19, 5:18, 5:34, 6:32, and 6:34.
4, Best and marsh CDtext track info says "Best marsh"(dubious sound quality - unconfirmed)
5, Run 2 - Plays the extended version (not listed as such). Sound quality suggests it was "mastered" from vinyl. Clicks and pops at: 0:03, 0:10, 0:17, 0:24, 0:38, 0:41, 0:45, 0:50, 1:02, 1:13, 1:40, 2:02, 2:39, 3:10, 3:58, 4:05, 4:12, 4:15, 4:29, 4:42, 4:56, and 5:10.
6, MTO - Plays the "minus mix" (not listed as such)
7, Fine time (silk mix) (dubious sound quality - unconfirmed)
8, Vanishing point (instrumental) (dubious sound quality - unconfirmed)
9, world in motion (carabinieri mix)- Listed as "cabinieri". Sound quality suggests it was "mastered" from vinyl
CDtext title information says "Bonus disc 4".
Overall, "Be aware that the mastering here is horrible. There are audible pops and snaps on some of the bonus disc music indicating it was ripped directly from vinyl and NEVER cleaned up. You can get better bootleg MP3s than this mess."
A+
STUMM "j'avoue que c'est assez effrayant" 101
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