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Messagepar alana » 20 Juil 2005, 12:59

tibo a écrit:
alana a écrit:je reve ou quoi? on voit Martin pendu par les pieds à gauche de David!!!

Extrait de la projection 93 de Condemnation.

tibo "tried"

désolée, j'étais encore une ptite enfant toute innocente à l'époque

mince, moi je le trouve beau à tomber David quand il a les cheveux longs (je suis une grande folle des bruns aux cheveux longs :inlove: :inlove: :inlove: )
une boule de suie a fauté avec de la poussière d'étoiles elfique et ça a donné Alana
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Messagepar paisley1985 » 21 Juil 2005, 14:29

Source> 1 des administrateurs de empty World!!


just couple of small things ...

- the standard album is done - mixed and everything ...
- there's a 5.1 mix in the works for either SACD or DVDA release
- catalogue number is Stumm 260

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Messagepar paisley1985 » 26 Juil 2005, 17:03

Voici 1 retranscription tirée d'1 forum connu des fans>L'insider sait de quoi il parle et C pas du PIPEAU...vous pouvez me croire!!



13/04

Its called Martyr FOR Love and its very uptempo and brilliant

i can say you will all be very happy with the new songs. the album is more edgie and the lyrics are some of marts best and i would say they are darker and deeper than the last couple albums


21/04
it does not sound like any other album but it feels like their earlier material-----not so optimistic or light in the loafers

21/06



from a verse: "its just a question of control"

from the chorus: "just give me the pain im used to"

chew on those for a bit

uptempo aggressive song---> should be a single IMHO

i cant answer any questions but since pain was mentioned in the interview with dave


23/06


my favorite line is (highlight to read) "every dress you own is a loaded gun"

and for the record - my posts have never been about trying to make myself look cool because ive heard most of the album and there are board members here - hi Grabbing Martin - that can vouch for what im posting - im a fan myself and im not into wasting peoples time, including my own - now i will apologize to those of you who dont want to know anything about the album if ive spoiled some things for you, but what ive posted just barely scratches the surface of what we're all looking forward to. and as for those who think i should just spill my guts and do a tell all about the album, i cant do that. im doing this because the songs on this album are some of the best that martin has ever written and wanted to keep the true fans, thats all of you, excited (pun intended), and discourage any of the "i hope this wont be another exciter" posts - its not - if i had to compare it to any of their earlier albums i would say this - (highlight) it has the lyrical depth and emotion of black celebration, the uptempo electronics of violator, and the hard edge of songs of faith and devotion - and it has its own sound as well - if posts such as this make you mad, i apologize, but if i can say more sometime down the road and you want me to, i will - otherwise, i'll see you back here soon when we can all speak about the album
20/07

PRECIOUS
Martin wrote the song.

21/07

I think when you hear the rest of the album you will feel differently. I was really surprised that this was to be the first single from the album because they seem to go for a heavier sound with their initial single releases, and believe me, there are MUCH heavier songs on this album. And I would agree with what someone else posted in that the lyrics on the album are much more direct, and not so ambiguous and open-ended. There's a lot of agression lyrically and the music is much heavier. Precious is definitely one of the softer songs on the album, but also one of the most touching songs I think Martin has ever written. All of Martin's songs on the album are very "from the heart" and when you're going through what he is, those feelings in your heart can be pretty angry and bitter, which you will really hear on "A Pain That I'm Used To" and "Martyr For Love" or whatever it is they end up calling those tracks.

22/07


Martin has written nine songs and Dave has done three. Some may end up as b-sides to singles... Of Martin's nine, none of them were instrumental. I hope they all make it on the album and he pens some new ones for b-sides...remember the good ol' Violator days when the b-sides were as good as the album tracks? That's what always made me rush out and buy the singles. I'd love for them to do that again.


I still love Martin's songwriting and his songs on PTA are of a much more personal nature, in that I think more people can relate to them, or rather, feel them. What I DO miss is Alan's contribution to the band. Ever since he left the band, the music just doesn't seem as rich. He never let the band settle for sounding mediochre or lackluster. He kept the sounds rich, full, and warm. He acted as a full-time producer for the band, it was the role he played for them. And the difference between Alan and any producer the band would hire for an album is that he was a MEMBER of Depeche Mode, not just someone on board for a one shot deal, and he was INVESTED in Depeche Mode. He cared. I guarantee you, if he was in the band still, recording and all that would NOT have wrapped in just a few months. He'd still be tinkering with sounds. Alan fucking ruled. But, despite his absence, I'm still really happy with what I've heard from the album







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Messagepar paisley1985 » 26 Juil 2005, 17:18

gahan66 a écrit:wouahh !! si tout celà est vrai, çà va en rassurer certains que je connais !!!

et çà nous met encore plus la pression (c'est quand la fin des vacances ???)

c DU VRAI DE VRAI!

Je ne retrouve pas le post de ce mec qui décrivait PRECIOUS et en donnait 1 partie des paroles bien avant sa disponibilité sur le net!!

C du PUR SUR!!

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Messagepar devoted.clems » 26 Juil 2005, 17:30

Quelqu'un pourrait résumé en français? S'il vous plait?
Touring The Angel:
-Paris 20-02-06

Tour of the Universe:
-Paris 27-06-09
-Nancy 28-06-09
-Paris 19-01-10
-Paris 20-01-10

Delta Machine Tour:
-Nice 04-05-13
-Montpellier 21-01-14
-Lyon 23-01-14

Global Spirit Tour:
-Bordeaux 24-01-18
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Messagepar jb » 26 Juil 2005, 17:56

Merci de garder toute les discussions sur l'album dans ce fil de discussion.
But of course darling it's normal
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Messagepar Guilhome » 26 Juil 2005, 18:40

angel fred a écrit:à quand des extraits sur le site officiel ? :zique:

J'ai l'impression qu'ils ne le referont pas pour Playing The Angel. C'est vrai que c'est dur de lire tous ces commentaires sur l'album en sachant qu'il faut encore attendre 83 jours pour l'écouter, mais perso, je me suis fait une raison ! On a déjà Precious en avant-première, ne nous plaignons pas ! Chaque chose en son temps... En espérant simplement que la date de sortie ne glissera pas au dernier moment, ça, ce serait horrible...
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Messagepar angel fred » 29 Juil 2005, 16:30

J'espère aussi qu'il y aura des "faces B" dignes de celles de violator et SOFAD :inlove:
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Messagepar DM'Angel » 29 Juil 2005, 16:53

C'est très chouette l'idée des ailes sur cette photo de dave avec la couleur bleu nuit c'est très beau pour un fond d'ecran ou un beau poster c'est nickel!
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Moved, lifted higher
Moved, my soul's on fire
Moved, by a higher love.. "DM

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Bercy 19 janv 2010 !! porte N
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Messagepar Loumi73 » 29 Juil 2005, 17:18

Cette photo est également sur le "calendar 93" ;)
Complètement Gahanisée... ;-)
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Messagepar Guilhome » 04 Aoû 2005, 17:30

Vu sur Forum EW3. Info ? Intox ??
Un certain Oli prétend avoir entendu l'album et le passe en revue :
(il semblerait que ce gars soit un habitué du forum qui ait par le passé donné des infos s'avérant exactes...)


I'm VERY excited! I've just listened to the whole album and want to share it with you.
Please understand that I've just listened to the album once, except for a couple of songs I listened to twice. And this is a VERY HARD album to listen. The production is so heavy and dark that you can't really get into the songs until many listenings I think. So my point of view can (and will) change in the future.
For those who are expecting an album like Precious, FORGET IT. It has nothing to do with it. No 80's sound, no synth-pop, no obvious hit singles. Actually, Precious is possibly the more different first-single to the the rest of the album in DM career.
There are no pop songs, don't expect nothing similar to Violator, SOFAD or BC. Of course there are good melodies and great choruses, but they are behind a wall of synths and darkness that create some of the most agressive DM moments. All of this, I repeat, after one listening.
DM did it again. They did a completly different album. Different to other bands and themselves, but sounding Depeche.
Nothing similar to Exciter, for those who disliked it (I loved it).
According to what I'd read about PTA, I expected it to be more organic, with lots of guitars and maybe more real drums. It's more organic than Exciter (that's easy), but there are not so much guitars, it's more heavy-electronic oriented. There are not click-drums, but not many heavy drums either.
These are my first impressions (and sorry for my english, I wish I could do better descriptions):

01 A pain that I'm used to
The synth in the beginning reminds a little to Dead of night. It's a very dark song, quite uptempo and with a little NIN feel. It will be a single. Actually, is the kind of song we'd normally expect as a DM comeback single. I bet it will be the first song on the tour. Great one!

02 John the Revelator
Strange song. Ìt starts with an Ultra feel loop, but much faster than any other song in that album. Lots of heavy synths and Dave singing is strong and agressive. The strange thing is the american-rockabilly touch of the vocal melody, but it works contrasting with the darkness of the production. Possibly a single too.

03 Suffer Well
Nice guitars and very dark and quite fast again. The chorus is specially nice.

04 The sinner in me
Great song. Once again, very very dark, but this time is a slow one. Dave voice is deep and low, really emotive, fitting perfectly with the analog synths and the electronic drums. The chorus is awsome, and, in the middle of the song everything stops and then an amazing long instrumental part starts, finishing with a final chorus once again.

05 Precious
The same version as the leaked one. Don't expect anything different. Though the video clip one was a rough mix, there are no noticeable changes on levels or additional parts. Of course, it grows as this is the final mastered version and sounds 1000 times better than the mp3. The most accessible song by far, maybe the only one. Nothing to do with the rest of the album.

06 Macro
Mid-tempo track. Back to the dark sounds, specially the drums. Martin sings really good, sounds powerful and clear. The melody is rather strange, though the chorus is brilliant. Nice nice one.

07 I want it all
Slow drums, somehow similar to the Exciter sound or to Bjork's All is full of love. Lots of synth arrangement. One of the weakest in this first listening, but will possibly grow.

08 Nothing's impossible
Mid-tempo dark (very very dark) song. Dave voice is really moving, once again in his classical low tone. In some parts the voice has some kind of vocoder (or other similar fx) which sounds cool. The synth parts are really great. One of my favourites (by now).

09 Introspectre
Wayne's possible favourite. A 1:30 long instrumental interlude! Simple but nice. I think it works. Sounds like a mix between Ultra and pre-86 period. The future intro of the tour?

10 Damaged people
The other song with Martin on vocals. This is really beautiful, with a very classical-retro vocal melody (don't really know how to describe it) over a strange harmony and synth arrangements. GREAT song.

11 Lillian
Very different from the rest. Uptempo song, Dave's voice has been filtered and sounds exactly like The Bravery singer in Honest Mistake. Don't know if I liked it or not, but I see it as a potential single.

12 The darkest star
I may be wrong, but I'd say this is the song that Martin told Fletch it was the best he'd ever written. It's very soon to make such a judgement, but after 2 listenings this is the one I liked more by far. It starts like an Exciter song, but then a piano appears, everything turns incredibly dark, Dave sings brilliantly and really moves you. The backing vocals by Martin are simply unbelievable!!! I'm very shocked at this time with darkest star. It has the "Playing the angel" words in the lyrics.

That's all.
Though I can't confirm it 100%, it seems that one of the b-sides is called Marta (or Martha).




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Messagepar Guilhome » 04 Aoû 2005, 17:46

Déjà l'avantage c'est que l'anglais n'est pas sa langue maternelle, donc il utilise des mots simples, pas besoin de traduction cette fois-ci, on comprend tout ! :bigggrin:
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Messagepar Manu » 04 Aoû 2005, 17:48

prévenez dès qu'il est disponible sur un p2p (peer 2 peer) eMule kazaa ou autre........
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Messagepar Guilhome » 04 Aoû 2005, 17:58

En tout cas toutes ces revues de PTA, c'est à la fois terriblement alléchant, mais en même temps complètement insupportable de frustration. Il va falloir que je songe à m'isoler sur une île déserte jusqu'au 17 Octobre... :cool:
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Messagepar Guilhome » 04 Aoû 2005, 18:08

Guilhome a écrit:And this is a VERY HARD album to listen. The production is so heavy and dark that you can't really get into the songs until many listenings I think.

(...) great choruses, but they are behind a wall of synths and darkness that create some of the most agressive DM moments.

A la lecture de ces phrases, je me dis que ceux qui trouvaient déjà SOFAD "surproduit", trop dense, vont être servis...
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Messagepar cyrilsand » 04 Aoû 2005, 18:14

Serait il possible d'avoir une "traduction"?:cool:
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Messagepar Bertrannnd » 04 Aoû 2005, 18:21

Et ou aurait-il entendu cet album, ce "Oli"? je reste sceptique...
Les seuls quelques chanceux qui ont entendu officiellement quelquechose ont entendu des extraits non-finalisés de l'album. Aucun doute que Depeche Mode et Mute protègent leur travail. Ils mettent probablement tout en oeuvre pour éviter que leur album se retrouve sur le réseau P2P avant sa sortie officielle (et le soit-disant "leakage" de precious etait bien évidemment orchestré d'avance).
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Messagepar Guilhome » 04 Aoû 2005, 18:32

Bertrannnd a écrit:Et ou aurait-il entendu cet album, ce "Oli"? je reste sceptique...

Le mieux est d'aller voir sur le forum EW3. Il y a bien entendu un grand nombre de messages de réactions et de remises en cause de cette info qui suivent et ça donne plutôt à penser que c'est de la vraie info. Verrons bien...
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Messagepar love thief » 04 Aoû 2005, 18:43

Guilhome a écrit:11 Lillian
Very different from the rest. Uptempo song, Dave's voice has been filtered and sounds exactly like The Bravery singer in Honest Mistake. Don't know if I liked it or not, but I see it as a potential single.

Dave doit vraiment chanter haut si c'est le cas.
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Messagepar Depeche_Man » 04 Aoû 2005, 21:27

Guilhome a écrit:According to what I'd read about PTA, I expected it to be more organic, with lots of guitars and maybe more real drums. It's more organic than Exciter (that's easy), but there are not so much guitars, it's more heavy-electronic oriented.

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