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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 06 Fév 2006, 00:53

nexus6 a écrit:y'a des messages en moins, non ?

Oui car on était aux limites de la chartes à converser sur la façon dont on aller échanger des "officiels".

je me trompe?




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Messagepar nitrate » 06 Fév 2006, 00:57

jmsmirnoffice a écrit:
nexus6 a écrit:y'a des messages en moins, non ?

Oui car on était aux limites de la chartes à converser sur la façon dont on aller échanger des "officiels".

je me trompe?

Tout à fait. La diffusion et le téléchargement de matériel officiel sont interdits.

Nitrate "ou faites le discretos" ;)
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Messagepar Precious » 06 Fév 2006, 01:52

J'adore ce morceau.
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Messagepar Shine » 06 Fév 2006, 09:57

Le mix de Tiga est une fois de plus, somptueux! A la limite de la version extended. Pour le reste, c'est du foutage de gueule hormis peut être le mix trés original d'M83 (malgré ses sonorités à la "Confetti's").

Sur Better days (catastrophique les remixes...), la voix de Dave fait "trés old school" je trouve.

En résumé, vive les bootlegs et les "white"...
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Messagepar Aludapasi » 06 Fév 2006, 10:23

..je suis un peu moins enthousiasmée que vous, j'aurai largement préféré JOHN THE REVELATOR, LILIAN ou NOTHING s IMPOSSIBLE.. suffer well, bof bof
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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 06 Fév 2006, 10:26

Le principal intéret des single c'est la face-b,peu importe le morceau qui sort en single,de toute façon tout le monde ici a déjà l'album...
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Messagepar LaurentM » 06 Fév 2006, 10:29

Et bien, à ma grande surprise, assez satisfait des remixes dans l'ensemble.... Ceux de Tiga et M83 sont bien mais le narcotic mix et ceux de metope sont..... insipides. Par contre j'attends d'entendre la version originale de Better Days car les remix (pas bons) ne permettent pas de s'en faire un opinion... Mais Better Days m'a l'air assez péchu...
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Messagepar Ayakano » 06 Fév 2006, 11:40

http://www.labels.tm.fr/fr/artiste.asp?artiste=M800A


J'aime beaucoup les remixs de m83 et je vais aller découvrir ce que créait cet artiste !


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Messagepar what_ever » 06 Fév 2006, 14:52

Concernant M83, je recommande le 2nd album ( "Dead Cities, Red Ghosts & Lost Ghosts" - pour l'anecdote c'est Mute Records qui l'a distribué en Angleterre ) et le 3ème album sorti l'an dernier ( "Before The Dawn Heals Us" ).
Ces deux albums sont différents mais ont des points communs. "Dead Cities" est quand même plus électronique.
Les influences principales de M83 sur ces deux disques : My Bloody Valentine, Kraftwerk et Pink Floyd.

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Le remix de M83 est étonnant, dans une veine plus "dance" que ce qu'on peut entendre pour leurs propres compositions. Ce n'est pas le coup de foudre mais c'est intéressant, il faudra que je jette à nouveau une oreille dessus...




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Messagepar Ayakano » 06 Fév 2006, 15:08

merci whatever ! ;)
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Messagepar dmwv15 » 07 Fév 2006, 16:20

Apres plusieurs écoute mon coup de coeur va à m83 qui a fait tres bon boulot avec ses deux versions de Suffer Well.
Le remix de Alter Ego sort aussi du lot .

J'adore aussi le côté torturé des remix de Better Days :cool:

Les versions de Tiga et Narcotic sont pas trop mauvaise.

Seul deception ... Metope boff boff ...
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Messagepar LaurentM » 07 Fév 2006, 19:09

Ayakano a écrit:hé ! y'a du torrent dans l'air ... :yeux:

chut !

Du quoi ?!??? :wow: :bigggrin:
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Messagepar LaurentM » 07 Fév 2006, 19:31

Ayakano a écrit:non, rien, je voulais juste dire qu'il y a de l'eau qui coule dans le torrent !

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Ah oui ! Bien sur c'est ce que j'avais compris.... :kewl: :bigggrin:
C'est beau la nature !

Et tu sous-entendais que Suffer Well, se déversera sur les ondes, TV, bandes FM et foyers Français tel (d'ou l'image) un torrent musical.... J'ai bon ? :langue:

Sinon je me disais que ça fait bizarre de voir la sortie proche du single Suffer Well, du clip, alors qu' A Pain That I'm Used To commence seulement a "percer" sur Oui FM ou Europe 2....
J'espère franchement que Suffer Well aura un succès plus rapide, mais j'ai comme un doute...




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Messagepar Ayakano » 07 Fév 2006, 19:39

je sais pas je n'écoute jamais la radio et je regarde pratiquement pas la télé ...

de toute façon c'est quand même assez "underground" dm ...
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Messagepar Ayakano » 10 Fév 2006, 00:24

Suffer Well reviewed

As Depeche Mode continues to tour the world in support of their new album, “Playing The Angel”, the third single from the album “Suffer Well” will see it’s release in March. The single will feature a lot of formats again, CD, DVD, as well as 12” and 7” vinyl. The CDs and DVD will be out on March 6th while the vinyl formats will be released on March 20th.

The “Suffer Well” Club Mix Promo CD (PCDBong37) is out and Empty World 3 has it. Like all their singles, an eclectic group has been picked to remix. The single features remixes from Tiga, Alter Ego, Narcotic Thrust, Metope and Mute label mates M83. The promo CD also features Basteroid remixing the new b-side “Better Days” as well. Empty World 3’s Element has gone over them all and put together his review.


Suffer Well (Tiga Remix)

After hearing Tiga’s remix for “Shake The Disease”, I wasn’t really sure how a remix for “Suffer Well” would work. I really liked his remix for “Shake The Disease”, but the song lent itself to be remixed in such a way. “Suffer Well” is more of a strait ahead track and I didn’t know if he could pull off a proper mix. Well, I’m glad to inform you that he did. The thing I have always liked about Tiga is his ability to make music escape time and he really pulled that off with this remix. This mix gives a big nod to the late 80’s remix style while staying current, contemporary, and most of all fresh. The remix is full of his signature electro sound, but also stays very true to the original. It’s a real blend of old and new for this mix and it works! The mix starts off a little slow and then really builds itself up in the middle, but then gets a little darker in the end. He also blends in some classic acid house sounds as well. Ewan Pearson touched on that a little on his remix for “Enjoy The Silence”, but Tiga took it a little further and added some classic piano sounds that were used so much in dance music in the past. This is a mix he should be proud of and one I think the fans will really enjoy.


Suffer Well (Tiga Dub)

This version is pretty much just an instrumental version of his vocal remix. It’s a little shorter and has some added percussion and layers. While it’s a solid dub mix, there is something lost without Dave’s vocal. One of the things I like about the vocal mix is that Dave’s vocals are used not as an added layer, but a prominent part of the mix. The vocals aren’t lost as a layer in the Vocal Mix, but a focal point and that is really missed in the dub mix. A dub mix can really work when the remixer throws in some added charm, but sadly this isn’t that time.


Suffer Well (Narcotic Thrust Vocal Dub)

Narcotic Thrust’s take on “Suffer Well” is a strait up club stomper! This mix is made for the clubs and one that will pack a dance floor for sure. One of the stand out elements to this mix is the bass line. It’s a good strait forward bass line and really is the heart of the mix. The mix is funky and progressive and really makes “Suffer Well” in to a strait up club mix. There is a lot of added synth layers that give the mix a melodic, almost trance feel, but without going over the top. It does get a little close to being a cheese house mix, but I don’t think they crossed the line. Other then Dave’s vocal, there is not a lot of parts from the original used, though you will hear little sounds from the original sampled in. It’s all about having fun with this one and I think they did a great job with it. This mix won’t be for everyone, but you will love it if you hear it when you are out dancing.


Suffer Well (Alter Ego Remix)

This is one of the darkest Depeche Mode remixes that I have heard in a long time and one I think a lot of fans have been wanting. It’s a mix not easily describable and one you just have to hear to feel it’s full impact. While it does stray a lot from the original version, this remix works on all levels. It has a very grungy sound to it and seems to have an almost industrial feel to it. The beat they used is very interesting element of the mix. It has a very old school electro, broken beat feel to it, but with some of the album version beat added at times and it changes the whole dynamic of the song. Add to that layers of grinding synths and you have this really unique remix. Alter Ego did use elements of the original song, but in really creative way that gives an other wise hard remix some soft, warm feeling to it. The only draw back is that the bass line Martin plays in the album version is not used and I think it would have really been an added layer to the over all feeling of the mix. This mix will no doubt be a fan favorite for sure.


Suffer Well (Metope Remix)

This remix sees Metope brining their signature tech house sound to Depeche Mode. I already know this mix will get a mixed reaction from the fan base and one that will challenge their collective music tastes. For the fan that hates the mixes that don’t feature the vocals and is built more around samples from the original song, this mix is not for you. The mix has a real funky sound to it, but a funky sound with an edge. A lot of the sounds from the original version are sprinkled all through the mix and help add layers to the added dark synths used. It’s got a nice deep, electro tech bounce to it and one I think some fans will really enjoy.


Suffer Well (Metope Vocal Mix)

This mix is more driving then the regular mix and features the vocals as well. It’s a good tech house mix that I think people will like it more then the regular Metope remix. This mix has a really funky base line and uses a lot of samples from the original. Where the regular mix has more of a dirty feel to it, this one is more clean and solid. It reminds me a lot of Michael Mayer’s take on “Precious”. It starts off with a darker micro house feel and then, when the vocals come in, takes a turn in to a more tech house groove. It’s dark, it’s funky, and it works. I think it’s one of the stronger remixes because it challenges the song, but is successful in the fact that it doesn’t kill it either. I don’t think either Metope remix will be for everyone, but I think they did great remixes.


Suffer Well (M83 Remix)

Again, another hard remix to describe other then to say it sounds like M83 really. The intro has this cool 80’s style synth line, though I’m not sure if it works or not with the rest of the mix. If you were a fan of Goldfrapp’s remixes for “Halo” and “A Pain That I’m Used To” then you’ll love this mix. Unlike the Goldfrapp mixes, this mix has a solid beat to it. While it does have Dave’s vocals, I think there are more of Anthony Gonzales vocals in it. Goldfrapp did add some vocals to their remixes, but this boarders almost as a cover version in parts of it. I don’t want to paint a negative picture to it either, but it’s more of a reinterpretation then a remix. It has all the layers you would expect from M83, but also has these big synth washes that flow all through the song. I think the Goldfrapp comparison is fair, but it also has it’s own unique sound to it as well. Tough to say what fans will think of this remix. It’s very different from the original version.


Better Days (Basteriod Dance Is Gone Vocal Mix)

It’s hard to write a review for a remix of a song when you don’t know the original version, so I’ll give you as much info about the remix as I can. This remix is a very hard and driving techno remix. It’s got a lot of grinding, almost glammy synth layers to it with a lot of quirky sounds coming in all over the place. It’s a dark mix that will really get you moving. Dave’s vocals seem to have an effect on them that might not give you the true sense of how they are on the original. There is a Martin vocal that is used as well, but not sure if that is a back up vocal that is used as a separate part or not. Judging from the remix, I think we’ll have another solid b-side track. By the time you listen to this remix, you should know how the original sounds as well. This is just some insight in to the remix.

Better Days (Basteriod Dance Is Gone Mix)

Like the Vocal mix, Basteroid comes in with a hard dance mix. This mix is very similar to the vocal mix, but only has a little vocal in it. It’s really a good rockin’ techno track. They cut up Dave’s vocal and drop it in here and there and loop it in parts. It’s got a gritty, almost glitchy layer to it and a driving beat that really grabs you. I think this mix is more for the people who love a good hard dance mix. Not knowing the original, it’s hard to really get the full impact of the quality of the remixes, but I think Basteroid succeeded.



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Messagepar nolach » 10 Fév 2006, 00:52

est ce que quelqu'un a entendu le remix de monolake ?
je serai vraiment interresse de savoir ce que ca donne
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Messagepar fred62DM » 10 Fév 2006, 10:23

en 1986 = Black Day

en 2006 = Better days

Optimisme en hausse chez DM ?

Nos modiens ont toujours le sens de l'a propos : Suffer well évoque la mauvaise période de Dave et il nous chante les "jours meilleurs" en "face b" (pour un CD pas évident de trouver la face B !!).

Bon en même temps, je ne connais pas le texte de "better days" et peut être que c'est la déprime ? QQ'1 a-t-il une idée de ce texte ??

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Messagepar Ayakano » 10 Fév 2006, 11:13

oui ... le texte dit en gros "tu as vu de meilleurs jours" ... "tu as vécu de meilleures façons" ...

plutôt une chanson qui ... gronde !

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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 10 Fév 2006, 11:21

Quelqu'un a les paroles de better days?
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Messagepar dmwv15 » 10 Fév 2006, 16:06

Rien d'officiel mais les paroles de la version remix ressemble à ca >

What are you hiding from?
You are part of the sum
What has been going on?
Your confidence is gone

What are you waiting for?
????...
????...
Are you expecting some
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You have seen better days
You have lived better ways
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