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Messagepar vivibelli » 22 Aoû 2005, 20:26

C'est bien partit pour une defênestration magistrale qu'en t'écoute Precious.Ya pas à dire,DM est un phoenix qui de ses cendres renait (encore) plus fort.

DM A MORT! :respect:
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Messagepar phinathom » 22 Aoû 2005, 20:40

vivibelli a écrit:C'est bien partit pour une defênestration magistrale qu'en t'écoute Precious.Ya pas à dire,DM est un phoenix qui de ses cendres renait (encore) plus fort.

DM A MORT! :respect:

là t'en fait des caisses ! :bigggrin:
non, c'est vrai que çà fait quand même du bien de les entendres à la radio çà faisait quand même assez longtemps... :zique:
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Messagepar what_ever » 22 Aoû 2005, 21:29

cyrilsand a écrit:Je viens tout juste d'aller sur le site officiel et pour l'instant il y a rien de neuf!:(

Il semblerait en effet que la ''news'' grandiose ressemble à un pétard mouillé : ''Precious'' disponible en digital download :bigggrin:
http://www.depechemode.com/store/digitaldownloads.html

Et les paroles de ''Precious'' sur le site officiel : http://archives.depechemode.com/lyrics/precious.html

Prochains updates promis par Brat : un extrait de ''Precious'', sonnerie de mobile ''Precious'' et de la boisson vitaminée ''Precious''.




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Messagepar what_ever » 22 Aoû 2005, 21:31

phinathom a écrit:non, c'est vrai que çà fait quand même du bien de les entendres à la radio çà faisait quand même assez longtemps... :zique:

Il semblerait que ''Enjoy The Silence, reinterpreted 2004'' soit passé 12752 fois en radio quand même...
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Messagepar Shine » 22 Aoû 2005, 21:40

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phinathom a écrit:non, c'est vrai que çà fait quand même du bien de les entendres à la radio çà faisait quand même assez longtemps... :zique:

Il semblerait que ''Enjoy The Silence, reinterpreted 2004'' soit passé 12752 fois en radio quand même...

C'était pas 12753 fois plutôt? ( source? ) :bigggrin:

Je sens qu'il va en gaver beaucoup d'ici peu, ce nouveau single, aux nombres de diffusion qu'il a en perspective...
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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 22 Aoû 2005, 21:43

Ne pourrait-on pas ouvrir un topic pour discuter de "precious" et laisser celui là plus general,pour des news sur "playing the angel".En effet ça devient dur de s'y retrouver.



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Messagepar paisley1985 » 23 Aoû 2005, 12:21

New REVIEW!!

Source>> http://www.depeche-mode.com/forum/index.php?topic=14390.0


Okay,

I just heard the album. And I'm blown away... Almost at least. This really is the DM album I have been waiting for since 1990. The overall sound is like a mixture of DM albums from SGR to SOFAD, with some very modern touches to brush off the retro accusations. The album resembles in mood perhaps mostly SOFAD, but this is a far more electronic album, without SOFAD's murkiness. The beats are oppressive, almost industrial, but the songs are lightened and livened up by those big old-school DM style swathes of grandiose synth-sweeps like on say Halo or Fly On The Windscreen. The modern elements come from clever distortions of the sound and the way many songs have almost wrong-sounding bursts of blips and static to break the clean, otherwise a bit retro sheen of sound. Ben Hillier has done a tremendous job. PTA is the sound of a band envigorated, it's almost like they have become 15 years younger since the last we heard of them.

As for the much-feared Dave compositions (at least feared by me), well I'm glad to tell you that musically they are on par with the rest of the album. Which means: they are very good.

Track-by-track guide:

1. The Pain That I'm Used To – it does begin like Dead Of Night, but fearn not, by the 30-second mark it has settled into something that could have been dragged from the deepest recesses of Violator. Both dark and light on its feet, this is PTA exemplified, with a big chorus that is almost underused, since it collapses under a landslide of distorted guitar. A very strong opener.

2. John The Revelator – hard bubbling electro-blues with Dave taking the role of the crazy preacher man we already know from GRWM. This is very heavy on biblical references, as the title hints, and the gospel choir harmonizing on the chorus makes me think of Condemnation meeting the glam-stomp of Marilyn Manson's version of Personal Jesus, but with much more electronics. Good, but not exceptional.

3. Suffer Well – Opening with an ETS-style processed guitar riff (a very often used motif on this album), this is indeed the first Dave-penned track. Either he has really been taking some lessons from Mart or his songs have been partly ghostwritten by somebody else, because this is so much better than anything on PM that it's almost ridiculous. The song has the typical DM trick of holding back the chorus for a couple of verses, and just when the listener starts to worry that there isn't one, it comes up served on a bed of some glorious synth whooshes and classic Mart-Dave harmonies. Think Halo. Yes, it's that good.

4. Sinner In Me – BOAG style beat, but speeded up. "If I could hide the sinner inside and keep him denied" goes this plea for a personal redemption, that climaxes in a beautiful chorus in a slightly slower tempo. The usual bursts of static and clicks scratch the inner surface of the song like there is another beast under the smooth skin – the sinner in me not content on keeping hidden inside perhaps?

5. Precious – we know this one. And especially, when heard in the context of the album, it is astonishing. One of the best things they have ever done, I feel.

6. Macro – DM at its most avantgarde, this is like Comatose beefed up a bit. Martin is on a much finer vocal form here than on C2 or Exciter. The almost atonal verses settle into a pretty, very mystical chorus that goes "see the microcosm in macrovision / our bodies moving with pure precision / one universal celebration / one evolution, one creation". Heavy stuff, eh? This is the track which will divide the opinions the most, although I did like it a lot straight away.

7. I Want It All – far better than I expected. A slow-burning, almost pastoral mid-tempo slowie that is let down by some vintage Dave lyrics: "Sometimes I try / sometimes I lie / with you / Sometimes I cry / sometimes I die / it's true". Oh dear. But still, an okay track overall, even though the length of six minutes is overdoing it more than a bit.

8. Nothing's Impossible – a very nice surprise! Dave's third track is nearly brilliant slice of understated mid-80's DM synthpop. Overcast oppressing synths crossed with a catchy pop melody make this sound like To Have And To Hold on a date with, say, Two Minute Warning. Like on all his songs, Dave keeps tributing Martin's lyrics here too "Even the stars look brighter tonight / nothing's impossible" goes the chorus.

9. Introspectre – a Board Of Canada -ish 1.44-minute instrumental, that sounds like a soundtrack to one of my more melancholic hangovers but not much else.

10. Damaged People – Alongside Precious, this is my fave track. A tender, sensual, ultraromantic Mart ballad that could have been a highlight on both BC and MFTM. "When you're in my arms / the world makes sense", goes the first chorus. "When your lips touch mine and I lose control / I forget that I'm old and dying", goes the second, and this is blissful stuff. Martin or DM haven't sounded this much in love with love, flush with romantic abandon, since the late eighties. It's like we're all teenagers again and the world is the most wonderful prom disco ever, where everyone falls in love with everyone and the floor is strewn with petals... Fabulous! *swoon*

11. Lillian – Very old school synth-pop with endearingly lightweight lyrics about some Lillian that breaks hearts for fun. The tune is merely okay, but still it's nice to hear DM being able to still have fun, to lose some of the portentousness and world-weariness that has weighed them down a bit since SOFAD. Sounds almost like The Bravery, like somebody here has always stated.

12. The Darkest Star – actually this was perhaps the only disappointing track for me, but that's only compared to my expectations. A slow-burning final track, that never really reaches the climax it hints at. But I'm sure it's very good too, once I learn to listen to it without the burden of it being labelled "the best song Mart has ever written" (it's not).

Well, that's all after one listen only. Tomorrow I'll receive a copy of my own, so plenty of chances to dig deeper then. I was expecting a lot, but I got a lot. This is up there with the 86-93, although not quite on par with BC or Violator, at least on first impressions. Thank you, Depeche Mode, you really have surpassed my expectations.


suite commentaires!

If they want something catchy and poppy, then: Lillian
If they want a PJ/IFY style rocky stomper, then: John the Revelator
If they want a Dave-written single, then: Suffer Well
If they want a Violator-meets-Useless -style brooding tracks, then: A Pain That I'm Used To or Sinner In Me





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Messagepar devoted.clems » 23 Aoû 2005, 13:47

D'aprés lui la derniere est la plus faible contrairement a ce qu'on dit les autres!
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Messagepar phinathom » 23 Aoû 2005, 13:56

devoted.clems a écrit:D'aprés lui la derniere est la plus faible contrairement a ce qu'on dit les autres!

je crois qu'il n'a écouté l'album qu'une seule fois donc c'est dur de se faire une idée tout de suite, il faut plusieurs écoutes pour entendre toute les subtilités d'un titre et l'apprécier, surtout que dans une autre critique il était écrit que l'album était plutôt "difficile d'accès".
mais avec toute ces critiques j'ai de plus en plus de mal à attendre. :wow:
encore 2 mois !!!! :(
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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 23 Aoû 2005, 15:01

Et allez!Une critique positive de plus.Et aprés tout pourquoi certains peuvent ecouter l'album plus de deux mois avant sa sortie.On nous prend pour des mendiants ou quoi? Moi je me fous des avis des autres,je l'acheterai de toute façon,la promo à deux balle c'est bon pour un groupe de débutants,DM a un potentiel de pigeons euh.. pardon fans qui achetent tout.Alors on arrete avec les ecoutes en avant premiere pour quelques privilégiés et on envoie le CD.
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Messagepar devoted.clems » 23 Aoû 2005, 16:38

phinathom a écrit:
devoted.clems a écrit:D'aprés lui la derniere est la plus faible contrairement a ce qu'on dit les autres!

je crois qu'il n'a écouté l'album qu'une seule fois donc c'est dur de se faire une idée tout de suite, il faut plusieurs écoutes pour entendre toute les subtilités d'un titre et l'apprécier, surtout que dans une autre critique il était écrit que l'album était plutôt "difficile d'accès".
mais avec toute ces critiques j'ai de plus en plus de mal à attendre. :wow:
encore 2 mois !!!! :(

Oui oui c'est sûr mais les autres aussi l'ont écouté qu'une seule et on dirait que cette chanson les a chamboulé,ca les a vraiment marqué alors que lui apparement pas!C'est juste une observation aprés c'est un des seul truc que j'ai pigé de la review,mais je voudrais savoir ou il a entendu(dl?preview?autre?).
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Messagepar paisley1985 » 24 Aoû 2005, 12:14

New review de l'album en date de 24/08/2005

Source >> http://www.electrichoverdonkey.com/dm/pta_preview.htm


Depeche Mode - Playing the Angel preview

23.8.2005 by Petri Teittinen



They've done it again. Against all odds, Depeche Mode have once more created an album which is nothing like their previous releases.



A lion's share of the glory must go to Ben Hillier, a perfect choice for producer, who imbues the album with an almost experimental edge - no doubt fuelled by Martin Gore's penchant for minimalistic click house and distorted, almost Autechre-like percussion sounds. But this is not techno - it's not even on the same planet.



Playing the Angel sounds like it was produced by an amalgamation of SOFAD-era Alan Wilder, who's replaced his grandiose orchestral arrangements with masses of warm synth pads and buzzing analogue synths, and a sombre, slightly depressed Vince Clarke, who was denied the use of an arpeggiator and forced to tune down his synths by two whole octaves.



That is, apart from the first single, Precious, which sounds nothing like the rest of the album. Yet that, too, follows the plan - intentional or not - Depeche Mode have crafted when it comes to selecting the first single from a new album. Personal Jesus and Barrel of a Gun gave the impression of, respectfully, a rockier and heavier album to follow. Yet the albums were not what the singles promised (or threatened). This time, Precious hints of a lighter, almost up-beat (well, as up-beat as DM can get) style. Not surprisingly, Playing the Angel does a full 180-degree about-face right after dumping Precious on an unsuspecting crowd and never looks back.



Track one.



A Pain That I'm Used To starts with a heavily distorted synthline which reminds one immediately of The Dead of Night. And there the similarity ends. The song moves at quite a nice pace, with just enough bpm to make it danceable, ticking and throbbing along effortlessly, almost modestly, like Dave's vocals. The chorus starts, and Hillier turns all knobs to eleven. Distorted synth from the beginning of the song brings with it a rumbling bassline which doesn't bother to knock: it kicks the door in. Strong vocals and catchy melody hook apply the finishing touch, and it's obvious to anyone this track will be a single at some point in time.



Track two.



John The Revelator begins with an almost Glockenspiel-like melody. Dave's vocals are run through an obvious effect, and the whole affair has a distantly Personal Jesus-like feel to it. Heavily processed guitars often rise up to steal the limelight, setting the listener ready for similar experiences on practically every track. The shout-along chorus is not catchy enough to warrant a single release, and the instrumental bits between vocal parts are more akin to rhythmical sound effects than melodies.



Track three.



Suffer Well was written by Dave. It's quite uptempo, starting with synth sound effects, then breaking into in-your-face distorted guitars. Hillier fills the track with huge pads, random crunches and noise. The chorus left me unimpressed, though there's a chance this one will grow on repeated listenings.



Track four.



The Sinner In Me introduces yet more distorted synths, followed by almost Walking In My Shoes-like drums; slow, dark and heavy. Staying well below 100bpm, this feels like a very slow ballad speeded up slightly. There's a surprising contrast between different parts of the song: while some swim deep, others have a much lighter touch. Like with Precious, the chorus of the track takes some finding at first. PTA contains very few songs that open up on the first listen, and TSIM would've definitely warranted a few repeats. Too bad there wasn't time for any.



Track five.



Next up is Precious, which, like me, you've all heard a thousand times. The version on the album sounds identical to the "leaked" video version, with guitars on top and Dave's vocals slightly buried during the chorus. Of course, the song sounds a helluva lot better coming from a properly mastered CD.



Track six.



Macrovision is the sixth track and the first to feature vocals by Martin Gore. It starts without drums or percussion, and anyone would be forgiven for thinking it's going to be a ballad. The tumbling bassline gets some backing from muted drums for the chorus, followed by a bridge filled with raw, distorted percussion. Production of the track reminded me of Martin's demos for Counterfeit 2. Excellent chorus, by the way.



Track seven.



Second track written by Dave Gahan, I Want It All, is probably the low point of the album. Below 100bpm, it's filled with audio gimmicks, distorted drums and percussion and plenty of heavily processed semi-acoustic guitars, which is usually mixed on top of everything else. There's also a very brief, almost Kraftwerkian synth sound with an appropriate melody making an appearance around the halfway point. IWIA is a very hard song to "get", as it meanders from part to part without much apparent structure. Name of the song is thrown in willy-nilly, like an afterthought.



Track eight.



Nothing's Impossible is the album's third and final song written by Dave, and it's incredibly dark. It's also a low-end bass monster, growling mightily on at somewhere around the 100-110bpm mark. There's a huge amount of noise and synths below Dave's vocals, a bunch of very odd synth sounds, and a recurring guitar melody on top of the lot. Dave's vocals are almost overwhelmed by a wall of noise during choruses. All in all, the best of Dave's efforts, and not a bad track at all.



Track nine.



Introspectre is yet another of those interminable and totally unnecessary interludes that somehow find their way onto Depeche Mode's albums. Clocking in at 1:45, this one's mercifully short, leaving no impression what-so-ever.



Track ten.



Damaged People, track number 10, is sung by Martin. In my notebook there's a full page of hastily scribbled text about this one, most of it totally unreadable. It's one hell of a song and the only one on the album which made the hairs on my arms stand up and cold shivers run down my spine. The way guitars and synths swell up to support Martin's vocals... whoa. Then there's the lyrics:



When you're in my arms

The world makes sense

There's no pretense

And you're crying



When your lips touch mine

And I lose control

I forget I am old

And dying



Make of that what you will, devotees.



Track eleven.



Lillian, the penultimate track, is one of the faster songs on the album - and it's simply screaming to be a single. Dave's vocals are run through a FM radio-like effect, there's plenty of the now-familiar processed guitar plucking on top, as well as an entire myriad of pulsating, throbbing, churning and twisting synth sounds. I jotted down a bit from the lyrics:



Oh Lillian look what you done

You've stripped my heart

Rendered it apart

In the name of fun



Actually, that's probably not quite the way the lyrics went, but you'll have to excuse my handwriting. (I was understandably forbidden to use a dictaphone to make notes.) Definitely one of the high points of PTA, and one of the more easily accessible songs as well.



Track twelve.



PTA ends with The Darkest Star, sung by Dave with backing vocals by Martin. It clocks in at 6:50, featuring both quiet and loud parts, filtered synths, lonely piano arrangements, quietly throbbing bassline and some rather threatening sounds thrown in for good measure. I guess they didn't have a kitchen sink readily available. Another track which absolutely refuses to open immediately. The chorus is simply amazing, with the sort of vocal bellowing you might expect from an ungodly hybrid of a human and a mythological beast from the pits of hell. It makes you want to repent your sins and bow down towards the speakers. What a way to end the album.



Any final thoughts, you might ask? Well, yes, quite a few, but they're all too jumbled to make much sense of right now. It's a very difficult album to get to grips with, I can tell you that much. Expect to spend a lot of time with it for some of the songs to finally open up. I hesitate to compare PTA to any of the previous albums, simply because it's so different - and yet, it's so obviously Depeche Mode you might shed a tear or two.



Text © 2005 Petri Teittinen

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Messagepar devoted.clems » 24 Aoû 2005, 12:58

Ca me rend fou ca,comment ils arrivent a avoir pta avant tout le monde ca me fout les boules sérieux!! :colere:
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Messagepar VIOLATION » 24 Aoû 2005, 13:49

Par contre, on connait la pochette du LP, mais la pochette de derrière avec les morceaux ont les a oui ou non...
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Messagepar paisley1985 » 24 Aoû 2005, 14:04

VIOLATION a écrit:Par contre, on connait la pochette du LP, mais la pochette de derrière avec les morceaux ont les a oui ou non...

Ben pour l'instant...NON....voyons ;)

PS>Je trouve extrêmement curieux que nous ayons pas encore de review de PTA Française sur ce Forum....Nos amis Anglo-saxons et italiens nous ont largement distancés je trouve :endormi: :endormi:



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Messagepar VIOLATION » 24 Aoû 2005, 14:23

C'était juste une question, on a eut le devant de la pochette, on pourrez avoir maintenant le derrière (photo de goupe oui ou non????) sinon, on le saura le 17 Octobre prochain (mais c'est long, l'attente est vraiment longue...)
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Messagepar paisley1985 » 24 Aoû 2005, 14:32

VIOLATION a écrit:C'était juste une question, on a eut le devant de la pochette, on pourrez avoir maintenant le derrière (photo de goupe oui ou non????) sinon, on le saura le 17 Octobre prochain (mais c'est long, l'attente est vraiment longue...)

Je sais :) ....après ces review plutôt très positives...C effectivement très long :cool: .....peut-être notre ami waitingforwords et ses contacts pouront nous éclairer soon :)




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Messagepar Depeche_Man » 24 Aoû 2005, 20:02

L'apprentissage de la langue Anglaise de nos jours est une prioritée pour l'avenir de notre Europe .

:p .

C'est vrai , une petite traduc' ça serais bien cool .
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Messagepar vivibelli » 24 Aoû 2005, 20:33

C'est vrai...mais s'il faut se démerder tout seul cliquer sur ce lien

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Messagepar jmsmirnoffice » 25 Aoû 2005, 21:53

Rien à faire de la traduc' moi les impressions des chanceux blasés qui ecoutent tout en avant premiere ça ne m'interresse pas.
Ils nous font baver et n'ont aucune consideration pour nous qui les faisons vivre depuis quelques années déjà.
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